[ Leo's point is enough to make Bigby's shoulders slump. it's not a realization, per se, but it was a fact that he didn't really want to consider. ]

I know. It's more out of self-defense than anything. Stop the killing so we can stop putting time in these stupid ass trials and find a way out of here.

[ they've taken two of their five days up already. those could be used to press Judy harder, to think of alternatives on how the hell they're supposed to get some of these doors opened. ]

Like I told Steve. Get a staff member to start talking once we know they're staff ― [ he's learned his lesson, okay ] ― and that's probably our best bet.