[ Jack snorts out a laugh that sounds less than impressed, and this is where I apologize, since Jack has a condition where he just says shit all the time without thinking about it. ]

Yeah, I can hear the air quotes around that, princess, and that shout-out's goin' out to you too. Was roughing up that chick really necessary? I mean- I mean, you're proving my point here, just using violence against people without reason, it's just not going to work.

[ jack you're going to get punched in the face again ]

So steps in between include actually using out brains. Yeah, right now, we don't have much info to work with, but that can be changed. I'm going to go off the off chance here that we're not a group of jackoff idiots, and maybe if we actually tried setting stuff up, we wouldn't have to jump to "you know, torture seems like a reasonable course of action here."